Thomas Shrumb

Thomas married Cassandra Kerns between 1844 and 1877. Cassandra was born between 1823 and 1843; died between 1844 and 1927. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Nicholas Shrum

Nicholas married Delila Fine on 19 Jul 1821 in Montgomery County, Missouri. Delila (daughter of Thomas Fine and Mary Ellen Nave, daughter of Thomas Fine and Mary Ellen Nave) was born on 6 May 1801 in Montgomery County Tennessee; died on 20 Nov 1880 in Marion County Oregon. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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BURIED IN HOWELL PRAIRIE "STRIPP" CEMETERY MARION COUNTY OREGON
MOVED TO OREGON ON APRIL 10 1846

Notes for Nicholas Shrumb:
Nicholas was a member of the Oregon Constitutional Convention, and his name is carved on the rotunda of the state house in Salem. In the Oregon archives Delilah and Nicholas are both listed as of German descent.

Marriage Notes for Delilah Fine and Nicholas Shrumb:
On April 10, 1846 Delilah and Nicholas and their family left Warren County, Mo., to go across the plains by oxcart to the state of Oregon. They arrived there on Oct. 5 and filed on a donation claim near Salem in the Willamette Valley On Christmas Day 1846.

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Alt. Born May 06, 1801
Montgomery County, Tennessee

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Alt. Born May 06, 1801
Tennessee

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Alt. Died
Oregon

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Alt. Died November 20, 1880
Marion County, Oregon

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Delila (Delilah ?) Fine

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Delilah Fine

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Burial
Howell Praire "Stripp" Cemetery in Marion County, Oregon

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THOMAS WAS KILLED BY THE ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE OF HIS GUN WHILE TURKEY HUNTING. MARY MOVED TO WARREN COUNTY MISSOURI WITH FIVE KIDS AFTER THE ACCIDENT. in 1817

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Alt. Died 1802
COCKE COUNTY, TENNESSEE

Thomas married Mary Ellen Nave between 1791 and 1792 in Cocke County, Tennessee. Mary was born in 1768 in Tennessee; died in 1868 in Missouri. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Mary Ellen Nee

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2. Vinet2 Fine (Thomas1) was born 1750 in New Jersey (Source: LDS RECORDS/ D.A.R./ Tenn. Cousins ( record book ) Bk. Over the Misty Blue Hills/Broderbund Records), and died 1783 in Fines Creek, North Carolina. He married Effie McElwain (Source: (1) Court records of Franklin and Rockingham Counties, Virginia, Letter From Jacob Wayne, Son of Tunis and Catherine (Propst) McElwain., (2) Letter from Jacob Wayne to the McElwain family written c1892., o Letter from Jacob Wayne to the McElwain family in Webster County, West Virginia, written c1892.) Abt. 1772, daughter of George McElwain and Nancy Rector.

Notes for Vinet Fine:
Vinet Served in the American Revolutionary War and was killed in 1783 in an Indian uprising. Because there was no time for grave digging, Vinet body was placed in a frozen creek with intent to retrieve the body later return, the creek had thawed and Vinet body had washed away and was never found. Henceforth the creek was named Fines Creek and is located on exit -15, I-40 North Carolina.

Colonel John Sevier attacked a party of Indians on Indian Creek in the summer of 1781. The place was near the County Line, on the farm of William Phillips. Seventeen Indians were killed. Peter, John and Vinet participated in this battle. (This battleground was pointed out to W.R. Fine by his father, Isaac, son of Vinett.)

In the spring of 1783 Colonel William Lillard and Major Peter Fine raised a company of thirty men and crossed the mountains to the Overhill Town of Cowee and burned it because from this town had originated the aggressions upon the Big Pigeon and French Broad Rivers. Captain John and his brother Vinett fine were members of the company. Such action antagonized the indians who in the winter of 1783 began to steal horses and cattle from the Big Pigeon settlements.

Major Peter Fine and Captain John McNabb raised a company of men and followed the Indians across the mountains into North Carolina where they killed one Indian and wounded another, but recovered the stolen horses. The Indians fired upon them, killing Vinett Fine and wounding thomas Holland ;and a man by the name of Bingham. Because there was no time for grave digging and apparently no safety in trying to escape with the body, the ice in the creek was broken and the body placed there. Before the men could return for it the creek became flooded by a sudden change in temperature and the body was washed away and never recovered. To this day the creek is known as Fines creek.

Vinett Fine entered and located on the land known as Swaggerty Farm and now owned by the Unaka tannery and James A.T. Wood. His daughter Sally Fine married Abraham Job, born in 1775 the son of David Job. (Also spelled Jobe)

!!!One more possible answer as to where they came from!!!

The fine family is one of the very oldest in Cocke county. In fact they were here long before the county.

The late Lady Ruth O'Dell, in her monumental history " Over the Misty Blue Hills," has given a lengthy account of the "tribe", so what I shall say here will merely supplement her excellent work.

The Fines were, there is some reason to believe, French. The first mention of the name I have been able to find was that of Orontas Fine, a French mathematician and geographer, who accomplished the amazing feat of making Mathematics a popular fad at the gay royal court of Louis I of France (1494--1547).

FATE Magazine, in its May 1966 issue presented a scientific article by Charles H. Hapgood relating that a science panel at Keene State College ( New Hampshire ) undertook a study of acient maps.
This group was startled to discover an extremely accurate map of the Antarctic drawn by Orontes Fine in the year of 1531!! the astounding part of the matter was that the Antarctic Continent was not known to Eurpeans before about 1820. At least it was not known that there was land under the ice.

Map Compiled ??

How and where then did Orontes Fine get his information? The Science group speculated that fine had "compiled" his map from several previous ones. Indication also was that areas now ice covered at some time were dry land.

But in 1531 few Frenchmen knew about, or cared about, the shape of the bottom of the world, and the fancies of the volatile French court turned to other matters. Orontes fine and his wife quietly and respectfully starved to death. They left large number of children, and when King Henry II who had succeeded to the French throne, heard about their deaths he was horrified and granted generous pensions to the children.... This is not to say that there is a certain relationship to this Orontes it is just one of those thing that just might be.....

Vinet married Effaeda McElwain between 1764 and 1781. Effaeda (daughter of George McElwain, II and Nancy Rector) was born between 1735 and 1760 in Franklin County Virginia; died between 1786 and 1848 in Missouri. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Effie