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John De Welles Baron Welles

John De Welles Baron Welles

Male 1334 - Yes, date unknown    Has no ancestors but one descendant in this family tree.

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  • Name John De Welles Baron Welles  [1, 2, 3
    Birth 1334  [1, 2, 3
    Gender Male 
    Fact 1 3rd Lord. Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4
    Fact 1 
    Fact 2 Parents Both Died When He Was A Minor. Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3
    Fact 2 
    Fact 3 Between 17 Mar 1344 and 1345  His Wardship Granted To His Eventual Mother-In-Law Margery DE Badlesmere. Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3
    Fact 3 
    Fact 4 She Married Him Off To Her Daughter That Same Year. Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3
    Fact 4 
    Death Yes, date unknown 
    Notes 
    • [large-G675.FTW]

      Faris in "Plantagenet Ancestry", p. 277 says that John de Welles, 3rd Lord
      Welles, married Maud, probable daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Lord Ros of
      Helmesley; one of John and Maud's children was John de Welles, 5th Lord
      Welles, b. 1352. Faris also states he is a descendant of Charlemagne.

      In the article on "Welles" in "The Complete Peerage" xii(2), 441 it ponts out that
      the parents of John de Welles (who was born in 1334) died by Feb 1344/5. "John's wardship was granted, 17 Mar. 1344/5, to his presumed mother-in-law, Margery, widow of William (de Ros), 2nd Lord Ros (of Helmsley)." The post-nuptial settlement of his marriage to Maud was also in that year, 1344/5 while he was a minor. It does seem likely that Margery wed her ward to her
      daughter.
    Person ID I67458  ktree
    Last Modified 4 Mar 2024 

    Family Maud De Roos   d. 9 Dec 1388 
    Marriage Between 1344 and 1345  [1, 5, 6
    Children 
     1. John De Welles Baron Welles, Of Gainsby,   b. 20 Apr 1352, Welle, Lincoln Or Conisholme, Lincoln Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 26 Aug 1421 (Age 69 years)  [Father: unknown]  [Mother: unknown]
    Eleanor De Mowbray Bss Welles  m. Abt May 1384
    Family ID F24061  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 4 Mar 2024 

  • Sources 
    1. [S204] large-G675.FTW.

    2. [S203] Gregory Strong, Ancestory.com Individual Tree - Kings & Presidents.

    3. [S201] Leisure Guy, leisureguy@icloud.com, "KinshipTree - Historical Family Database", (Name: Name: http://kinshipcove.com Genealogy Research: Common Historical Roots In South Texas;;).

    4. [S79] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, (Name: Name: Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 1996;;), 1st ed, p 46 "Butler".

    5. [S214] Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori", (Name: Name: P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803;;).
      No date

    6. [S79] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, (Name: Name: Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 1996;;), 1st ed, p 46 "Butler".
      no date



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